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A downloadable Love Game

PATREON | YOUTUBE

Welcome, traveler!

Burning Soul, the full game, is a zelda-style adult RPG that lets you use a team of three girls to unleash real-time combos while explore a world full of exciting moments and secrets. The minigame, instead, is focus on the love story between Ajoora and Axy, show us funny and erotic moments of their daily life.

The world of game: Haumea



Haumea is a tempting planet, with lush plains, spectacular waterfalls, immense deserts and snow-capped mountains where spiritual lights can be admired. But don't be fooled by the beautiful landscapes, Haumea is a dangerous planet. Violent living forms, devious traps that have survived the ashes of its creators, deep dundeons full of treasure, mysterious forests steeped in lament, ancient ruins hidden by evil shadows, and much more. Haumea keep a secret and has been invaded for it. It is the place where two deadly enemies will meet after a war that began millenia ago.




The game plays from the perspective of Axy: a small creature that can change shape when it stores energy. Burning Soul starts with the meeting of Ajoora. She appears like one of the Beorof tribe, even in her manner: she is proud, courageous; but is not enough. After some (tragic) event Axy will discover the truth, he falling in love with her and he will try is best for help who fell the same for him,,, 


But it's really so?

The line between love and good sex is thin.

Will a simple ball of energy be able to save Ajoora's heart from the shadows that she born? Perhaps it will be a disaster announced; but Axy is not alone. Many girl are waiting to help him, each with its goals and fears; but all of them are victims of the sneaky plan of the Apocalypse Keepers...
                         

  • Discover Axy's past and make decisions that will change many aspect of the game.
  • Uncover the dark intentions of the Apocalypse Keepers and try to put end their threat, in one way or other...
  • Experience the sexual desire that binds Axy and Ajoora through various intimate moments, and watch the more erotic dreams of other female characters.


The game is based on the "Hack and slash" system to create a real-time battle that allows you to use unique mechanisms to win. Create a team of three girls and swap them on the battlefield to unleash powerful combos that become stronger every succeful hit making in time!

                                                             Other Special Features

  • Elemental affinity with vantages and weakness
  • Crafting system on armor and weapon
  • Choose between 9 available girls (they can increse with special event)
  • Stealth, some time...
  • Ranged and Melee Combat
  • Achievements
  • Survival elements on specific area
  • Farming system for unlock level cap of caracters
  • Jump for reach some zone or for exspand options in figth
  • Individual love affinity for increase the damage of each girl and the NSFW scenes
  • Large variety of sexaul interections
  • Talk with the girl on the map every time you wants for skit or area tips
  • And much more!



The full game will be released for free as soon as possible (chapter by chapter)

In the meantime, please, enjoy the minigames on my other page Itch.io ^.^

    Thanks to all who want support this project for turn it in a little masterpiece!


- Team Oricrow -

PATREONYOUTUBE

StatusIn development
Rating
Rated 4.3 out of 5 stars
(17 total ratings)
AuthorTeam_Oricrow
GenreAdventure, Role Playing
Made withAdobe Photoshop, RPG Maker
Tags2D, Adult, Anime, Fantasy, Hentai, Horror, NSFW, Porn, sex
Average sessionAbout a half-hour
LanguagesEnglish
InputsKeyboard, Mouse
LinksPatreon

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looking forward to what you have planned for the year, I know this game will blow up on this site eventually

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Thanks, dude

I'm finishing the first part of the prologue, soon you will be able to try it ; ) I have a lot of cool stuff to show you, you'll see some good one this year ^.^

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The download doesn't seem to work on the Itch launcher.

I'm sorry, dude. I've searched but still can't find a solution. It seems that Burning Soul doesn't work on the itch.io app... but if you download it "normally" on your PC it works fine ; )

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How's the development going oricrow? Hope you're doing well!

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All is well, bro! 

Development is progressing well but slowly, problems are never lacking. The chances of finishing within the year are increasingly low but, on the other hand, I'm adding a lot of content ; ) 

Be patient, you will be rewarded with a great prologue ^.^

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I must say I'm very excited for this game. I hope all goes well and look forward to seeing the game progress. And if I ever get a credit card I'll be sure to support! Haha

Thank you, bro! 

My goal remains to share the game with as many players as possible so the paid part is very optional,  just for support me like you said. It obviously eases things up and amplifies Axy's powers during sex, but the gameplay experience (including tons of erotic/sex scenes) remains accessible to all.

 You will see that sparks in the prologue ; )

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Will there be any futa characters?

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Maybe, if my patrons vote for it ; )

I don't know if it's late for this but a corruption issue could be added, depending on the things he does with each of the girls they may have to treat him differently and when one of the girls gets mad at Axy, I would. having very wild dreams. Depending on how the dream ends, the girl could treat Axy worse or better to the point that you won't be able to use that girl in the game again and it reaches a point where the girl leaves.

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Very interesting and similar to how 
I intend to develop relationships 
with other girls. 
For the rest I won't give spoilers 😌
except that in the "house" there will
be a gym... it's important to 
strengthen the muscles to defeat 
the monsters, especially the 
buttocks XD
Show post...

Where wolf

Axy can transform into a wolf (currently only into a wolf's penis) but you have to be my Patron, or wait for a free-for-all event to come out, or crack the game somehow XD

In 7/9 days the last part of the 4th minigame will be released. It will be the first time that Axy can transform (man, wolf or horse) and receive a good blowjob from Ajoora.


PS. if you're referring to the image on F95 it's not canonical. I made it for fun and it will never be animated until 1000 players want to see a bad dream of Ajoora XD 

For the rest Axy will take care of fucking Ajoora in many, many way 😉

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I am one of those who want a bad dream of ajoora, now to wait for the remaining 999.

Is the first game going to be available on Android?

An Android version is not currently planned for this year. In the future why not 😉

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I love your game developer keep it up. Dev a question I saw that there will be a dream mechanic but I did not understand it well. So, in dreams girls can dream that they have sex with another person? Is that so or am I wrong

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Glad you like the game so far ^.^ 

As for your question... 

Short answer: yes

Detailed answer: the dream mechanic is aimed at other girls. Currently I don't think it will be available to Ajoora (the she-wolf) for lore reasons. I'm just saying that Axy can't enter "symbiosis" with her for some reason... 

For the rest, dreams can concern different themes. Orgies, strange sexual experiments, lesbians, sex with Axy or with some specific enemy, Patrons request, ecc. They will be scenes that you can skip without problems, let's say that they delve into the character of the girls, what they like and perhaps what they are afraid of...

PS. in a month at the latest the last part of the 4 th minigame will be out. Get ready for a killer blowjob 😏

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a heart attack blowjob xd. thanks for answering. One last question, who will be the first girl you add to the game?

After the release of the prologue I will post a poll on my Patreon page to vote which girls (seen from the back cover) will be added to the game. 

The two most voted will be added.

 Obviously you will be able to consult a "guide" for each girl in which there will be written the character, the body measurements (very important XD) and the role in the gameplay (DPS, Support,  Healer,  or Tank. If they fight at close range or at a distance, if they are better at magical or physical attacks, etc.) 

Unfortunately the release of the prologue is scheduled for the end of the year... but it will be worth it 😉

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You madlad did it again. That fourth minigame... First the third one and now the fourth one. I loved them way more than I should and still crave for more.

Honestly, one of the best parts of these apart from how fleshed out characters' personalities are, is how you don't just slap a few PNGs and call it a day. Instead, you animate the shit out of it and it just gets ten times better. I really wasn't expecting the squirrel in fourth minigame :D (need more of that)


Well done lad. I can't wait to see more of our characters and their intimate moments :D

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Happy to hear it ^.^ 

Although the program I use has its limits, with a little imagination and desire to do interesting things can be created, and I have a lot of ideas to show you 😏

Damn I was hungry for more, the fourth minigame fell very short

The best part is still missing... but yes. Let's say that, being Axy's first time, it couldn't last long... Next time it will definitely be more resistant XD

So we have to wait to see the best part, I hope it includes something very big to leave Ajoora in a wheelchair, xd

LOL! Now that you mention it, later in the game if you sex her too hard with something too big she won't be able to fight for two/three days 😅

For the rest the next update is about the REAL oral sex plus a big improvement to the experience with Axy in normal form 😉

Unfortunately it will take at least a month...

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A sacrifice that I am willing to accept xd.

Wait Axy is like a small spirt thing? soo its vore??

Yes, I really think it also falls into this category, but without the part that I personally find less fascinating, which is the bad end that those who are eaten suffer 😅

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thank you for clarifying

Develop a question. Do you plan to make any minigames with the blindfold or gloryhole category?

Hi ^.^ 

the new minigame i'm working on is basically based on the gloryhole (obviously between Ajoora and Axy) in the future there will be many more erotic minigames... the first ones that come to mind are the one in the kitchen, in the pond and in the cellar. But first I have to release the prologue and then do the Patreon poll to choose the first two girls to add to the story 😉

Dev, some last questions. Will Axy have sneaky sex with any of the girls, while Ajoora is distracted? Is it mandatory to stay with ajoora in the game or could we also stay with one of the girls that appear?

Don't worry, it's a pleasure and my duty to answer ^.^ 

If possible XD

So... Axy won't have sex with the other girls but there will still be "embarrassing" moments which will then be deepened into dreams if the player wants to. 

I give an example. 

Axy is trying to infiltrate an enemy base and has to accompany a girl without being seen. He hides under the girl's skirt but then, she will be forced to sit down and Axy will end up crushed between the chair and the girl's butt. Nothing else erotic will happen and Axy will have gotten the information he was looking for. Then, when our heroes have returned to the "headquarters" and it will be night, Axy can explore the girls' dreams in order to get to know them better but, this time, there will be the scene from before in which Axy gets crushed under that girl's butt . Basically the girl is dreaming that Axy transforms and fucks her liking while the enemies magically disappear or maybe participate XD 

Dreams are basically jokers, you never know what can happen but it really depends on what the girl you spy likes. If any of them are lesbian there could be a scene with her and another party girl, and so on. 

I want to underline that dreams are completely jumpable and that, after all, they are only dreams... the love between Axy and Ajoora is not discussed 😌

Regarding the last question a clarification on the gameplay.

The party is made up of three girls that the player can freely choose from those available. So it is possible to leave Ajoora at "HQ" however for some events it will be necessary to have some girls in the squad rather than others... 

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it seems like a lot of the art is stolen...

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Maybe you meant recycled XD 

Seriously now.

The girls on the cover are from a paid dlc by RPG maker, and Ajoora is from the classic hellhound, but obviously I worked on them to make them as they are, to ANIMATE them. In the game folder there are currently more than 2000 files... I'm creating a rpg before a hentai, and if you've played rpg you'll know how many elements it contains between monsters, skills, dialogues etc... Discredit my work because two or three images are similar to who knows what other image seems naive to me. But I care about doing things right. Indeed, for works that really belong to others, there are credits. Plus the game is fan made so it's free.

Ultimately you can see me as a orchestra leader. Some who understand nothing about music argue that they are useless, others see them as the mastermind behind the heart of the music. I'm not here to steal anything from anyone but to share a love story. Peace ^.^

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but did you ask the artists before if you could use their art? 

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Certain. I sent several emails especially to Kenkou Cross (the author of the design of the monster girl hellhound) but, sadly, I never got a reply. On the other hand, even the official fandom page Monster Girl Encyclopedia can release images and stories about Hellhound as long as they are not commercialized.

I am available for any further questions 😉

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My original comment to your "minigame collection" was visually curropted and I couldn't confirm whether it was a personal glitch or a general one so I got rid of it and posting the same comment here :) Simply wow! This was definitely not the experience I was expecting. It was such a fresh breath. I LOVED the dynamic between our hero and heroine. Minigames were just as lovely and naughty as the interactions/dialogues were fun to listen. CGs, dialogues, pixel art sprites, animations, concept, story that envelops our characters and the developing relationship between them. I loved every bit. Translation is a bit rough on the edges but nothing too serious and can't be fixed. As someone whose guilty pleasure is "size difference" and enjoys anal stuff, what a spicy surprise. Especially the third minigame. I would definitely like to see more!

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Thanks, dude! 

Comments like yours always inspire me. I keep working on the game to offer you more and more contents. Belive me, you will see some good one ^.^

Ps. I don't know why the comment wasn't visible, maybe it was a glitch

I know it might be early, but when do you plan to release the first part of the game? In the middle of the year or at the end of the year? And of course, you don't need the specific date, because I'll follow it on Patreon..

It's very difficult to predict, but... I might be able to release the prologue around August/September. If instead we talk about the first chapter, when there will be two other girls besides Ajoora, I think we will finish in February 2024

But of course I can be wrong... and not in a positive way 😥

One thing is for sure my work will never stop and if you follow me on Patreon you will see for yourself 😉

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10/10 the anal sex minigame, a shame not to be able to have vaginal sex, but I'm sure it will be in a future update. dev a question how many points can I accumulate in the last minigame. I reached 3000 points, what is the limit of points that can be reached?

Thanks, friend! I'm glad you liked the minigame ^.^ 

Obviously there will also be vaginal sex, your trust is well placed ; )

For the rest there isn't a real limit... the only limit is the player's time and skills. Although I must admit that making more than 4000 points would not be useless because this is the threshold to unlock the lv 4 affinity with Ajoora. If you think that killing an enemy gives you 1 affinity point while a boss gives you 100, you understand how important it is to have sex with Ajoora to improve your affinity with her. But we're talking about the full game here...in the current minigame scoring is just for individual glory XD

Dev, so what update will be required to have affinity with ajoora? And how important would it be to have a high affinity level with Ajoora? Apart from the sex scenes.

The affinity with Ajoora will be with the release of the prologue. It will be important for the combat system because it will allow you to do more damage (you will get a nice surprise when Ajoora reaches lv 5, the max) for exploration some area and for the story because it will unlock different scenes (like good, bad end) 

I want to point out that affinity can also go down depending on how you play.

Unfortunately there is still some time left until the prologue comes out... but I think it will be worth it 😉

I didn't understand, what do you mean by a good ending or a bad ending?

I was talking about the full game. Depending on the level of affinity with Ajoora you will have a good ending or a bad one. The same goes for the other girls. Try to save all, when the game out 😁

I am sorry for the late reply 😉

Dev some questions, could Axy get Ajoora pregnant? Can Axy be multiplied? Axy, being a shapeshifter, can he also transform into animals?

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1) Good question...You will get your answer in the second part of the third minigame. Out this afternoon! I'll wait for you ^.^

2) No. not directly. However, Axy can create elementary spheres called kelsy (if you tried the second minigame it's the red, blue and green hands you used to touch Ajoora with) So he can multiply his "hands" XD

3) Sure; even if... for plot purposes he can't transform into a full animal because it takes too much energy (for now), but he can transform into those animals' penises (with a little bit of your help) and make Ajorra even happier 😏

Game looks lit!! Keep doing what ur doing, boss. I will bid my time and wait for this baby to complete before i sink my teeth in :P 

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I understand you very well. I also preferred to try the games when they were a little more complete XD 

Of course there are exceptions ;  ) 

I'll wait for you this afternoon if you want to try the second part of the third minigame, a big update will be out ^.^

is this game based on monster girl encyclopeida? Looks like the hellhound is pretty much the exact same one.

Well... The appearance of Ajoora (the female protagonist) is practically the same as the classic monster girl hellhould.  In my opinion what makes her truly unique is the story that characterizes her 😉

By the way, Burning Soul has a completely different lore than the Monster Girl Encyclopeida can have, but is correct give the proper credit for the original concept art (I did it in the credit section)

No other "famous" monster girl here XD

how do i do the dungeon thing at the beginning of the 3rd minigame?

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Going straight to the point. You need to analyze the statue in the upper central part of the dangeon. Have Axy enter the statue's mouth and then help him by guiding him through the pipes. (The direction is left then right) Examine the statue again, then take the barrels in the lower left part of the dangeon and throw them into the two empty "fountains". Now examine the area under the "action" icon to return to Ajoora. Done ☺ May I ask what specific part of this process did you get stuck in?

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how do i enter the statues mouth? when i plate the metal in the mouth, it just says wish me luck and then i can continue to roam the room.

edit: figured it out, thank you

Will axy ever be redrawn? He seem super cartoonish

I chose to make Axy this way to emphasize the fact that she is very different from any other living Being XD


SPOILER


He'll change drastically, he's a shapeshifter after all, but not soon.

How long till we can permanently become a wolf

Already in the next minigame there will be this possibility, but it will be just a taste

In the late afternoon I load it 👍

Dev, one question, will the game have any swinger content like Axy shares Ajoora and the cover girls with another guy or will it all be vanilla?

Hi. The game is romantic or, better to say, it is within the confines of reality. I'll explain: in the future, when the other girls are available, the player will have the possibility to explore their dreams and some of them will be erotic. Anything could happen based on the righteousness of the girl in question 😉

Let me guess, every time Axy gets close, some girl, Ajoora will turn typical toxic. sorry for my english but it is very difficult to write with the translator

We have the same problem, english is not my first language. 

Some SPOILER on Ajoora feelings



At the beginning of the story, Ajoora doesn't believe that Axy is really in love with her, so she openly tells the other girls that they can "provoke" him by going around the house half naked, if they want XD 

To be honest Ajoora doesn't want to fall in love with Axy. She fucks very well with him, but she is afraid to love him (It becomes clear very early in the game) Hence the clumsy attempt to get Axy taken away by the other girls, even if, deep down, Ajoora wants Axy to resist moved by a feeling deeper for her...

Needless to say, the "advances" and "erotic unexpected" with the other girls will always end in nothing. But when the girls are sleeping, in their dreams it is possible to see how each of them wished that those "events" were over 

Dev, give me a hand, I don't know what I have to do in the minigame where you have to choose the size of the penis, I have like 1000 points and I don't know how to progress

I'm afraid it's a bug, my friend. The counter should stop at about 30 points, after which there is the last scene. 

I remind you that that part of the minigame is incomplete, poorly tested and full of inconsistencies, as the tutorial says. 

The only advice I can give you is to try to press the space bar more slowly XD

I feel like my dick is going to explode

My bad. The update is almost there now. Sorry again for the delay

Dev, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but don't give dates or people will get desperate. One question, do you plan to create another game?

I fully understand what you mean. I'm the first one who wants to meet the deadlines but this time (thanks to some unpredictable events) I didn't do the math well... Going back to your question, I have no plans to create another game in the short term. Burning Soul will take several years of work but, if things go right, there will be a sequel 😉

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Bruh, release the new update! It's been over 2-3 self given deadlines already.

Memo to me, "never change your mind during development" XD and always count on some bad luck... Anyway give me less than 48 hours. The update will be released on Friday at 17:00 at the cost of cutting the last part... nothing erotic, don't worry 😉

My cock hurts 😳

Be strong, man. 3-4 more days and the new update will be available XD

For some reason the download for the itch.io app won't work it. During the installation it'll stop and give this error:  Unsupported compression algorithm

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thanks for the report. I will try to solve it in the next updates but I promise you nothing, it's quite difficult... Otherwise it works fine on Windows. At most press f5 a couple of times if you have problems 😉

Hello, I just wanted to ask if the game is on discord? and also if the game will ever have ntr with any of the girls that appear in the image above?

Hi ^.^ I haven't opened a discord for the game yet but I will soon ; ) For the rest there is no NTR (the plot is centered on the love story between the two protagonists) but every girl you see on the cover will have her own erotic scenes/dreams where strange things can happen XD

on Windows 11 home game won't even instal from the app

Hi there. The next update is close (end of month/early February) and I hope I fixed these problems with the mods I prepared (if not I will contact a pro to try to fix it. ) In the meantime I hope the game works on Windows 11 if is downloaded normally ^.^

I'm trying it on joiplay but everytime i try press start in title it gives me this

You can try pressing F5 to reset the game. Try at least a couple of times. It normally works ; ) I hope this can help you 

Sadly the same screen

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Unfortunately Joiplay doesn't emulate Windows or any operation system so games that depend on Windows APIs or uncommon Node. js classe/function won't works. I will try to make my js files compatible in next update. Meanwhile there is the good old pc ; ) 

I'm also getting the extraction error. I understand that I can run it without the app, but I will say making the game compatible with that is very helpful, as being able to keep all my games organized and in the same place is a massive convenience .

It sure is. I will do my best to make my game accessible to as many device as possible. It is in my own interest ; )

The game keeps bugging out for me it doesn't let me extract the file cuz no file destination error?

I'm sorry. Not what could be the mistake. You sure don't have to use the itch app. io to download the game. I also made a youtube tutorial "devlog 11 skip to 10 min" to download the game. I hope this can help you

Your game looks great but I really hope the hellhound girl isn't shy/a tsundere because the point of hellhounds is being shameless and not caring with who they have sex with because they live for mating and having sex.

I mean the reason I love hellhounds is because of them being 100% dom.

First of all thank you for playing the game! Then... without spoilers I can tell you that Ajoora is a particular "hellhound"... She's not shy, nor tsundere (there will be other girls like this) Ajoora is still very faithful. She's romantic, with a playful nature,  but when she's having sex, she's not subtle, she's a beast XD Time for some updates and you'll see some good ones ; )

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Thank you very much. 

Please keep working hard!

which dialogue do i have to follow to finish the second game i've been trying for a long time i'm not very good at english and i'm lost (written in translator)

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The difficulty of the second minigame will be fixed in the next update on December 2, 2022 

SPOILER 

When round 1 of the game starts, pull Ajoora's panties and tell her "just for fun" then click stop and talk to her by pressing spacebar and tell her "about your pussy" This way you will unblock her clit and it will be very easier to increase her pleasure. Use the clit, stop, use the clit again, then use the green orb for grab her ass. When she reach 4 pink heart (the pleasure) put a finger in her pussy (red orb) then on second round when she reach again 4 pink heart pull her panties (red orb) the last round is easy. Just with 3 heart you can spread her pussy (green orb) and "fuck" her XD 

I hope this help you. Have fun ; ) 

Hey im having an issue downloading the game, it keeps saying unsupported compression algorithm , what do i do?

You are probably using the Itch.io app  to download the game.  Try to download by going to the browser page.  I hope this can help you ^.^

So a build of the main game isn't ready yet?

Yeah... I still need time. I will release the main game prologue when I finish the 4th erotic minigame. You can check out my Youtube video to see some mechanics from the full game, like battles and fishing ; )

One question, will the game have netorare?

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No. On the contrary, it is very romantic. In the full game Axy will have to do more dates with Ajoora, dinners, walks etc. In minigames I cut these parts to get to the point.

SPOILER! 

The other girls I will add in the game (whose asses you can see above) will have a slight crush on Axy and some of them perform a little avances on him. Then it will be possible to see their sex dreams about Axy. All legal XD

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And what will be the pace of updates if it's not a bother to ask?

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Hard to say precisely... 

It took me about a month to make the first minigame and almost three months to make the second minigame. I guess I'll need two/three months to do the ass minigame and maybe a little less for the mouth one. Tomorrow 11/20 I will post a poll on my Patreon page to choose which minigame will be released first. (The poll lasts a week) Then I'll have to think about releasing the prologue to the full game with the big update where Axy can transform itself, and so on... One thing's for sure: I'll work as fast and as best as I can ;  )

Could you tell me how I progress in the first mini game?

Sure ;  ) 

First of all in the first minigame there are no sex scenes because the two characters were getting to know each other (they will be added later, just as I will add more in the second minigame)

In the current first minigame the strategy is simple. keep the power level below 10 and keep it below 10 until a power up appears (an up arrow) click it (Axy has an aura) then press all the positive numbers trying to get to 30 (the max) and press the spacebar in time. Repeat 5 times and try to got the best score possible... with some luck. You can also drop the power below 0 once (you will lose a life) but you will get 100 affinity points (which is useless in the minigame but will be useful in the full game) XD

Gaint girl and anal vore stuff, thats what I want, bro. I will keep following you!

You speak my language, bro! Axy was born to be eaten by Ajoora's ass XD

Is there a way to do more with her ass? I got to a put where she enjoyed using here ass, but it didnt seem like I could go any further.

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I think you have unlock all related to her ass. SPOILER! 


In the last round you can spread her ass if you unlock "the plan B" after using the blue orb at least once with a related correct answer. Then you can use the green orb to squeeze her butt then jump between her buttocks and talk to her for a new line of dialogue, but no more then that. Ajoora wasen't ready for anal sex XD She will do in the next minigame (if patron vote for it, otherwise first some oral jobs 😉) 

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